https://twitter.com/YiannisBab/status/614456594403864576 kyylä minä onnistuin tekemään ruokaa (itselleni) jääkapissa jäätynyt pippuri on aika hyvä.haha ompas hyvä hame miähelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=varlFj0W6UA&app=desktop whitney goot.19 astetta eikä mieli uloos;;ments for this thread are now closed. 19 Comments World Socialist Web Site Login 1 Recommend 2 Share Sort by Best − Avatar Human6 • 24 days ago One should avoid mere radical-sounding bluster, but one feels compelled to write the following: The EU and US capitalist-imperialist dictatorships, NATO, the UN (and League of Nations before it) are truly a gang of degenerates, a den of thieves, an alliance of imperial brigands. As class, social, political, and economic institutions, they constitute the bulwark of world reaction. They are a repudiation of the French Revolution, The US revolutionary and Civil Wars, and the European Enlightenment. Capitalism completely exhausted any progressive role in any part of the world, after the early 1880s (the final successful revolutions were the US, German, and Japanese.) By my count, that means it's shattering by the labourers is overdue by around 130 years. 20 •Share › Avatar ChrisRFLM699 Human6 • 24 days ago Yes, these various institutions representing and speaking for the bourgeoisie have long betrayed their own revolutionary (British, French, US) history. America worst of all, the American revolution, the American civil war, this will not be lost on workers. 5 •Share › Avatar imaduwa Human6 • 23 days ago Just see within that 130 years the calamity for which imperialism has been responsible. No decent human can live in this world now if he is not with the ICFI. 2 •Share › Avatar Carolyn Zaremba Human6 • 23 days ago Lenin referred to the League of Nations as "that thieves' kitchen". 1 •Share › Avatar Kannan Nades Human6 • 23 days ago This is the perspective "developed" by the already "talented" and now "enlightened" "Marxist" Human6 for the Greek and Eastern bloc "working class". "One of the most important tasks for a Greek section of the revolutionary Marxian vanguard will be to take up the immediate task of educating the masses that the EU, a capitalist-imperialist institution, is their ENEMY. The call needs to be to shatter the EU and replace it with a workers' state. The pseudo-left charlatans and agents of the bourgeoisie would immediately try to fool the Greek people by pointing several indubitable facts 1. the NATO powers of Germany, France, England, the UK, and US would immediately try to intervene to crush such a development. 2. the consciousness of the world workers is not homogenous, the workers in those powerful states are not currently up to the consciousness level needed to carry out such an overturn of capitalism. 3. the probability of overturning capitalism and imperialism in every nation in the world simultaneously in a 24 hour period is almost nil. Marxian vanguard will have to earn the confidence of the Greek workers with a correct strategy. Let us say tomorrow the toilers were to shatter the capitalist dictatorship within Greece, a workers' state declared. In terms of the immediate aftermath, Greek toilers would find their natural ally in the Turkish, Egyptian, Albanian, Macedonian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian, Cypriot, Kosovar, Lebanese, and Serbian toilers, great majorities of whom hate the capitalist systems in their own countries, and in the former workers states, view the old systems as superior. The Greek victory could easily spread to those countries. A Balkan and Near Eastern federation of workers states could prove a powerful deterrent to the NATO powers. It would also deal a blow to the hold of bourgeois public opinion in countries like France and Germany, and even UK and US." see more •Share › Avatar Sebouh80 • 24 days ago To be honest, I believe we are at a critical historical stage where a major revolutionary uprising taking shape and form in either Europe or America will have long reverberating effects around the world. Of course, at the end of the day all revolutionary movements will be judged by what they built not what they destroy. One thing is for certain that is Capitalism has now reached its twilight stage which is its own survival now depends on more renewed imperialist conflicts over scarce resources, and this is evident in many geographical locations around the world. All this is vital in order for capital accumulation to resume uninterrupted. However, the costs of preserving this system in question is becoming a real challenge to human civilization. 7 •Share › Avatar νιαου-νιαου • 23 days ago "rationally and gradually.” this phrase perfectly sums up SYRIZA's objections to the EU's "reform" demands. As Baroufakis and his government have made clear a thousand times already they are totally willing to proceed with the "reform" agenda. The only thing which worries them is the rapidity by which the "institutions" demand these reforms to be implemented. Varoufakis' government is aware of the old wisdom which says that a boiling frog will jump off the pot if you attempt to increase the temperature very fast but the frog won't react until its too late if you do it slowly enough. In other words what SYRIZA's leadership is afraid of is that if they attempt to bring at once to parliament all of these "reforms" their government might collapse the next(if not the same) day and almost certainly it would cause a major split in the party with many of its lower members(and even some higher ones) deserting it en masse. As for the "institutions'" profound unwillingness to consider SYRIZA's reasonable request for taking the slow approach it can be explained in two basic ways. One is that the creditors are trying to set an example by turning SYRIZA's brief term into power into a monumental failure. By politically destroying not so much what SYRIZA actually IS but rather what it SYMBOLISES in the fantasy of many European "leftists", "anti-austeritarians", etc, they wish to teach the greek electorate as well as their electorates that electoral opposition to austerity not only will lead nowhere but it may even make things worse by provoking the wrath of the EU High Priesthood. Another possible reason why Schauble and his gang are trying to needlessly wreck Tsipras' term into office is because they want to politically resurrect their allies in the EU Parliament meaning Samaras and his Party which they still trust a lot more than the highly unstable SYRIZA. see more 2 •Share › Avatar dmorista • 24 days ago The difference in how Ukraine and Greece are treated is striking. It is worthwhile, however, to look at the GeoStrategic aspects of this on the major power level (whose respective working classes suffer differing levels of privation and repression). There are now two main Capitalist power blocs; the U.S.-led Finance Capital Bloc and the Chinese-led Eurasian Industrial Capital Bloc and it brings many events into focus to view global developments this way. Ukraine, on the border of Russia, is a much more dangerous pawn for the Finance Capital Bloc, than is Greece. Russia, would prefer to maintain trade and diplomatic relations with the E.U., and even with the U.S. if possible, as a counterweight to Chinese and other East and South Asian powers. The fascist putsch, and resultant Ukrainian coup regime, push very hard against the chance for favorable relations with the U.S.-led bloc. Greece has no similar level of backing and/or trade relations with the Eurasian Bloc, or other BRICS nations; and it is extremely unlikely that that power bloc will risk seriously helping Greece (e.g., a loan at favorable terms from the new BRICS Bank would be a very helpful recourse for the hard-pressed country). The Finance Capital Bloc is a declining power bloc. Their domestic populations are at best indifferent and often hostile towards these foreign adventures that must be carried out with small "Special Forces" units and mercenaries. Other more or less leftist movements are gaining power in Southern Europe (Spain and Portugal for the moment) and resistance and disorder are not too far beneath the surface in most of the Finance Capital Bloc; including the U.S. Of course, right-wing movements are also gaining strength in Europe and the U.S. and Japan. The Eurasian Bloc is composed of countries where a larger portion of the population is becoming prosperous but there are still huge numbers of very poor exploited people; a legacy of Colonialism and Globalized Capitalism. Russia, by virtue of its geographical location, is naturally a member of the Eurasian Bloc and the idiotic Finance Bloc's gambit in Ukraine is ensuring that this is emphatically the case. The current great "Workshop of the World" is the East Asian Pacific Coastal region, including Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan along with China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam and many others. So far Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan are still allied with the Finance Capital Bloc, though they maintain very large economic relations with China and other East and South Asian countries. The many countries located on the periphery of China have long histories of fear of Chinese domination and resistance to it. A clever ruling class in the West would figure out how to utilize this long historical antagonism, but the current rulers of West are not a particularly clever group or capable of long-term planning. see more 1 •Share › Avatar imaduwa dmorista • 23 days ago What is lacking in this set of ideas is that the significance of US military might which it has no hesitation to use to achieve world domination. Therefore only ICFI line of action can work positively. Appeal to the international working class to replace capitalism. Until then decent humans are on the way for their doom. 1 •Share › Avatar dmorista imaduwa • 23 days ago First let me state that I think WSWS is at the very top of information sources in the entire media world, the analysis is excellent, the information reliable, and the site fears no topic. And, I agree with the exhortations to true revolutionary change at the end of many articles and in your comment. As to whether or not such change will occur or, if as an alternative, the Earth is destroyed as a suitable place for human life I am less sanguine. There have been truly revolutionary upheavals in poor countries with majority peasant populations that, while imperfect, offered alternative paths to development than the monopoly Capitalist Oligopolies found in the developed countries (Mexico, Russia, and China would be the big three examples here joined by many smaller places, e.g. Cuba). In the developed countries the working and middle classes managed to win significant concessions, generally extracted during times of crisis for the Capitalists. Revolutionary change in the developed countries has, uniformly been negative and fascistic. I am writing from the U.S. and it is worth pointing out that the military power of the U.S. is far over rated. The U.S. military has lost every war it has fought since WW 2 (where the USSR and China took the overwhelming brunt of the land fighting and casualties against Germany and Japan respectively). Where actual American military force has been applied to any significant foe since WW 2, the best the U.S. could manage was a draw in Korea and it was decisively defeated in S.E. Asia, Afghanistan, and Iraq. The pathetic bleating of Bush the elder, about the end of the Vietnam limitation on U.S. actions, after the attacks on Grenada and Panama only serve as an illustration of the exceptions that prove the rule. The military response to the signal defeat in S.E. Asia was to quit fighting colonial wars with conscript forces (a very amateurish gambit in fact) and transform the U.S. military into a "professional" force that paid at or above market wages with very heavy advertising and recruitment in disadvantaged areas to round up the personnel. In addition, since this could not raise a large enough force for their ongoing operations, and in accordance with the ongoing privatization of formerly public services in the U.S., the ruling class developed large mercenary and covert forces (many of them mercenaries as well). The composition and nature of the U.S. military and associated mercenary forces now resembles the French Foreign Legion much more than it does the traditional citizen soldier forces of pre-Vietnam America. Furthermore, the ruling class slowly changed over to a much more authoritarian domestic society, first using the canard of street crime and particularly the "War on Drugs" as the pretexts. Following the extremely fishy events of 9/11 this process accelerated and now the police state in the U.S. has repealed rights that go back to the Magna Carta. These are not signs of strength, however, but are rather the death rattle of a system that can no longer provide a decent life for a growing proportion of its citizens. The U.S. ruling class has had more success in its overseas adventures when it uses covert and "death squad" type tactics than when it commits its own military forces. Thus Angola, the Congo, Indonesia, Iran, El Salvador, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile , Nicaragua, and many others have felt impact of coups d'etat, assassinations of popular reformist leaders, and other horrific covert interventions. Even these "successful" operations generally end up with some sort of response, after a generation, in the targeted societies that is, more or less, hostile to U.S. Capital's interests. The other question, as to the viability of the U.S. ruling class' ability to continue their level of dominance of global affairs are the deteriorating social and physical infrastructure conditions inside the U.S. A university education is becoming unobtainable for many people, the water and transportation systems are starting to break down, the level of cynicism and distrust the population is very high (even if it does not necessarily redound to the advantage of the fairly moribund U.S. left). After a decade or two when China built a huge highway system and several thousand miles of high-speed rail lines, with plans to extend them to Moscow and tie in with the European systems; in the U.S trains limp along more slowly than they did in 1930 with only one line, from Boston to D.C. that is even remotely "high speed". These kinds of comparisons can be made over a multitude of areas. I would like to read or hear about a comprehensive plan for how the U.S. populace could bring about the implementation the ICFI line in this society; this is also addressed to any WSWS moderator who reads this, point out some reading in your literature that addresses the question of how to successfully transform developed Capitalist societies, I will gladly read the material and think about what it proposes. More likely, I think, is the chance that another "New Deal" set of reforms could be forced on the ruling class; either that or a descent into some nightmarish fascist regime in the midst of various severe environmental and economic problems. see more •Share › Avatar Mr. • 23 days ago The differential treatment between Greece and the Ukraine by the IMF, partially comes down to the fact that, Ukraine's gold has already been stolen by them (or another arm of the same parasite). •Share › Avatar John Ellis • 23 days ago A grand solution --- An attitude adjustment Capitalism is where people feel they deserve more, which gives them a guilty conscience if ever they fail to enrich themselves upon the misery of those in a lower class. On the other hand, socialism is where people feel they deserve less, which gives them a guilty conscience if ever they fail to give all they can give. So, it all depends upon if life is an unalienable right and we deserve to be all we can be. For my thought is, life is a free gift and we own nothing, surely we deserve nothing. •Share › Avatar imaduwa John Ellis • 23 days ago To each according to his needs and from each according to his ability. That system of society can be accomplished. 2 •Share › Avatar FailedEvolution • 24 days ago Greece: The return of ERT and its role to the class war http://bit.ly/1FYGQMs •Share › Avatar sufferingsuccatash • 24 days ago "The imperialist governments are well aware that if billions of Euros are handed to Kiev, the entire sum will be spent on war." More likely "a good portion of those billions will be stolen by the oligarchs controlling levers of power in Kiev and the fascist militias." And if that diverts money from continuing the conflict, and muddles the western capitalists' plans for further plunder, then that will be a good thing. •Share › Avatar νιαου-νιαου sufferingsuccatash • 23 days ago It goes without saying that the oligarchs will have to get their percentage if any deal is to proceed. But the west is not stupid they will stop funding if they see that their henchmen are not doing what they're being paid to do. And the oligarchs in their turn are not so stupid to disappoint their sponsors. 2 •Share › Avatar imaduwa νιαου-νιαου • 23 days ago You are right. Chinese financial oligarchy is stupid. It willingly approved the theft by SriLANKAN ruling elite from 2005 to 20015. Masses are in dire straight now. 92% OF GOVERNMENT REVENUE IN Srilanka goes for debt payment. 1 •Share › Avatar sufferingsuccatash νιαου-νιαου • 23 days ago You are right viaou----there is a delicate balance between theft and murder that the henchmen must consider in following orders. 1 •Share › Avatar imaduwa sufferingsuccatash • 23 days ago Good to have theft being brought to the fore. Down with financial oligarchy! 1 •Share ›